How does taking on an isle guarded by a maybe stronger than normal NW pirate two years back and taking down two cargo ships equate to being trained personaly by two high tier characters, one named the best swordsman training a swordsman, the other a complete master over haki and swordsmanship himself training purely for enhancing/strengthening haki?
They are just not ready for Big Mam Imo. the discussion is whether or not straw hat pirates is capable to challenge Big mum, kidd and drake was challenging the yonkou y werent they squashed yet? did the yonkou even retaliate when their territories/ships were attacked?? surely they must have!! Is the straw hats inferior to the kidds and drakes crew?? so go back to the argument can the straw challenge big mum? yes! it doesn't mean that they would win in a full engagement with all big mum's crew. And definitely even ussop can probably take few of big mum's crew.
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